What's with all the fire alarms

Joined : 12 Dec 2007 Posts : 13

Are we going for a Guinness record or something? What's the reason for all these fire alarms that last for a good 20 - 30mins? Is the building charged a fee for all these false alarms?

Joined : 09 Jul 2007 Posts : 38

fire alarms seem to be getting out of hand. especially the ones at 1:30 in the morning.

need to find out what the problem is here. is it someone pulling the alarm? or is there some kind of problem with the system. i'm pretty sure we get charged for these unnessary calls from the fire dept.
i have an email to managment about this.

Admin Age : 35 Joined : 12 Nov 2006 Posts : 91

AFTER 3 FALSE ALARMS IN A YEAR.....

$ 400 FOR EACH TRUCK WHICH COME TO OUR BUILDING....IF I REMEMBER RIGHT FO FAR YEAR TO DATE ATLEAST $10,000 MUST HAVE BEEN CHARGED BY FIRE DEPT TO OUR CORPORATION.....

PURE WASTE OF MONEY BY DELL MANAGEMENT AS THEY HAVE A INCOMPETENT PROPERTY MANAGER AT PINNACLE....

BEST IS EVERY ONE IN THE BUIDLING CRIBS ABOUT IT BUT NO ONE MAKES THINGS IN WRITING TO PROPERTY MANAGER & THE BOARD....IT IS ALL OUR MONEY WHICH IS WASTED FOR NOTHING....

Joined : 09 Jul 2007 Posts : 38

$10K?? Wow! I've sent a few emails to property management regarding fire alarms and pinnacle international.
I think we must have a faulty system that has been installed.

Joined : 12 Dec 2007 Posts : 13

from the notice it looks like ppl are venting the smoke from their kitchens by opening their front doors, causing the fire alarms in the halls to go off rather than opening their windows and balconies like any other considerate person.

How discourteous do you have to be to open your door and share the smoke with the rest of the residents on your floor? However I'm not surprised anymore after seening a discarded condom wrapper in the elevator a few weeks back. And I thought empty beer bottles and cans were bad.

Admin Age : 35 Joined : 12 Nov 2006 Posts : 91

Pls dont get fooled by the Notice in the elevators as Management is looking for any one to blame at this point of time, everything from Elevators, fire alarms, upkeep of the building, gardening in front & terrace...all are created by residents.

What the hell we pay management for , fi they cant manage the front desk & building properly....?

Joined : 12 Dec 2007 Posts : 13

Apparently the cause of the fire alarm last night at 1:30am was some ppl horsing around at 16 Yonge having a good time, when they decided it would be a good idea to remove the fire extinguisher from the hallway in the common area, thus causing the fire alarms at 12 and 16 Yonge to go off and having the fire trucks called.

Admin Age : 35 Joined : 12 Nov 2006 Posts : 91

Yes, it is very true that one of the resident actually caused the fire alarm last night & they will be paying for all the cost of Fire trucks. They also threw the glass bottles on the tennis court from their 15 or 16th floor suite.

What a annoying neighbours at 16 yonge, as along as they are penalised & put on notice we will have less issues going forward.

Joined : 09 Jul 2007 Posts : 38

good to hear that these people will be charged..

sometimes i wonder what kind of idiots live in our buildings.

Joined : 12 Dec 2007 Posts : 13

hopefully they will be criminally charged with mischief as well after disrupting hundreds of ppl at 1:30am with their shenanigans.

Joined : 14 Nov 2006 Posts : 8

Is it really true that Ellen from Property Mgmt will do something about catching the guys who stole the fire distinguisher?
Here is the breakdown on the cost of the fire alarm (from our condo fees - 16 Yonge):
1. Chief Fire Truck = $500
2. Minimum of 2 fire trucks arrive with the chief each time and each truck = $750.
Hence, a simple trigger of the fire alarm will cost us $2000.
We've had 3 alarms that I'm aware of since the beginning of 2008.... I strongly believe that residents should be made aware of these fees – POST THEM IN THE ELEVATORS!!!! Warn tenants who trigger the alarm will be faced with monetary penalties.
I was told that Ellen had done nothing to mitigate our loss. She has yet to identify who was responsible for the last incident.
In fact, here is a list of things I've noticed since Ellen became our Property Manager:
1. Damaged garage door from lower P3 for over a month – who pays for this damage? Broadcast it so Residents is aware of this please.
2. Damaged water fall from lobby
3. Carpet was finally removed today from the foyer??? What about the carpet in the elevators? It's SUMMER ALREADY!!!! . The puke that was left in elevator #3 was covered with a cardboard for several days?
4. Cleaning staff locking and cleaning elevators at peak hours of the day (8am-9am & 5pm-6pm). Having to wait for 20 mins for an elevator is unacceptable.
5. Damaged picture frames not replace in foyer for over 6 months (12 and 16 Yonge)
6. Where are the 2 planters in the front doors on Harbour St?
7. Wall paper in lobby near elevators all peeling (16 Yonge)
8. New Concierge staff - Vie, is unpleasant - and not courteous.
9. Bring back Richard and Michelle to the DAY shift at the front desk; bring back Michael and Salvatore to the EVENING shift at the front desk… they were all doing well, knew their job and were friendly to EVERYONE. Why did you change their shifts?
10. We DO NOT need so many insignificant Security Guards sitting around and wasting our money. Two Concierge Staffs per shift suffice the job for security.
11. Why are our parcels in the garbage chute room of 12 Yonge? It reeks in there, and anyone can climb over that chicken fence to steal our parcels once they are inside that room.
12. Remove the fire hazard yellow pages from the mailroom already! They've been sitting there for how long?
13. Water temperature in the hot tub is near boiling and the shower stall drainage problem next to the steam room has been clogged for over a month.... pours some Draino there!
12. Where is our HOBBY room as per our Condo Documentation? Is that the Staff Lounge now on the 2nd level?
15. Fix the damaged/dented column outside 16 Yonge on Harbour Street. This is a new condo. It’s so run down; it looks like a 10 yr old condo. The value of our condo is depreciating because Dell Management is not doing anything about it.
16. Ensure that dog walkers pick up after their pooches.
17. Put some garbage cans on each Garage level – there is trash on upper P3 right outside the walk-way entrance, and it has been there for over a week! Where is your cleaning staff? Instead of cleaning the already cleaned elevators twice daily, why don’t they go to the garage and do some sweepings?
18. Why is it that no one can ever get a hold of Ellen? It’s because she gets into work after 10am, takes a smoke break at 11am, goes for lunch at 12pm, another smoke break at 2pm and goes home at 3pm? Ellen is WASTING OUR MONEY. We should not hire someone who lied about her condo experience and do NOTHING for us. All our complaints to her has been tossed out in the garbage, residents of 12 and 16 Yonge, please DO NOT re-elect Ellen in September if you want to see the value of your condo increase.
19. The list actually goes on with no hot water; A/C was turned on too soon; elevators still not fixed entirely; flower beds outside looks like weed garden; washroom on ground floor should open to ALL residents and visitors – we paid for that…. Why do the Property Mgmt people think it’s their private washroom?

Joined : 12 Dec 2007 Posts : 13

another false fire alarm today. I'm starting to think ppl do this on purpose. I was told if was another cooking incident where a resident opened their door to vent the smoke into the hallway.

Joined : 14 Nov 2006 Posts : 8

Thaat resident should be charged!!!

Joined : 06 Jul 2007 Posts : 5

I agree with Hymelon!!

If Del knows it was a resident's cooking that caused the fire alarm to go off then that resident should be charged.. why should the Bldg pay for 3 trucks atleast coming in and $1200 being payed by 16 Yonge for it.

What is DEL doing? THis is not the 1st Fire Alarm in our building.. There is no meeting, no rules, no penalties.. There is NO COMMUNICATION at all....

Great DEL Management... they are deaf!!!!

Joined : 14 Nov 2006 Posts : 8

Truly, write to the Board with your concerns. They can help!!!
write to Manoj.sharma@hbc.com.